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Do TM P90s perform well in woodland skirmishes, or are they only really useful in CQB?
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post Jul 3 2007, 08:14 PM
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I have a p90 and it works fine in woodland I can hit someone at a decent range the same range as my friends CA m4 jest as accurate. For the past month I have been consitering the m4 barrel in my p90 and thats perfect if you like the look of the silencer and want more accuracy.

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because of the bullpup design, it would have a longer barrel than you would think. and with a barrel extension, it would be perfect for woodland, in my opinion


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post Jul 3 2007, 09:45 PM
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Yeah, I love using my P90 in woodland…..actually, it's the only place I use my P90. As Lord of Inferno says, it's a BB hose. 439fps, with a TB Barrel, a 9.6v 3300mAh battery, and a 1600 round box magazine, it's awesome. It's so small, the bullpup design makes it incredibly easy to maneuver in the woodland environment.


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post Jul 3 2007, 10:20 PM
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I think it depends on whether your gun is stock, and what your play style is. There was a guy at the last game I played with a p-90. His range sucked, but he was okay for suppressive fire, although my m4 had enough range to pick him off.


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post Jul 3 2007, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(bat21win @ Jul 3 2007, 10:20 PM) *

I think it depends on whether your gun is stock, and what your play style is. There was a guy at the last game I played with a p-90. His range sucked, but he was okay for suppressive fire, although my m4 had enough range to pick him off.

True…..of course it also depends upon how good of a player the P90 user is. I did just fine with my P90 when it was stock. It sure felt like it was hitting harder than 280fps, I can tell you. Plus, the nice TM Hop-Up helps with the range, even in stock form.

I think the fact that the guy with the P90 was ineffective with his AEG is probably because he sucked.


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post Jul 6 2007, 07:39 AM
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Don't listen to people who don't have the gun and say it isnt good for woodland and the range sucks. I have one and I play in woodland against M4's and such and I couldn't tell the difference in range or accuracy. I would actually say its a good woodland weapon as its very quick to shoulder. In fact its compact size will give it an advantage in all scenarios.
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post Jul 6 2007, 08:10 AM
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from what I've seen it does well in woodland. With no need to wind, a good rate of fire, and a compact frame, it offers a lot of advantages. you can move quickly and avoid fire while still put down a fair amount of fire. smalll weapons can be useful in woodland if you use cover right and move quickly. I have not seen much difference in accuracy or range from other maruis either. I have used just about every marui there is and I have to say its not my cup of tea, but it gets the job done if you like it.
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post Jul 6 2007, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(cwingwvwc @ Jul 6 2007, 08:10 AM) *

from what I've seen it does well in woodland. With no need to wind, a good rate of fire, and a compact frame, it offers a lot of advantages. you can move quickly and avoid fire while still put down a fair amount of fire. smalll weapons can be useful in woodland if you use cover right and move quickly. I have not seen much difference in accuracy or range from other maruis either. I have used just about every marui there is and I have to say its not my cup of tea, but it gets the job done if you like it.

barrel length doesn't have that much of an effect on range or accuracy. The TM hop-up and a tight bore barrel, coupled with the fast ROF that the P90 provides, makes for a very formidable woodland weapon.

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QUOTE(H0ndaJunkie @ Jul 6 2007, 08:54 AM) *

barrel length doesn't have that much of an effect on range or accuracy. The TM hop-up and a tight bore barrel, coupled with the fast ROF that the P90 provides, makes for a very formidable woodland weapon.

ya my friend has a stock tm m16a2 and I have a stock tm p90 tr and they are very similar in accuracy barrel length doesnt matter a while lot I mean its more accurate but not very, and the size of the p90 is perfect for maneuvering through the woods effectivly and its really quiet with the suppressor. My all time favorite weapon now (used to be the m16 a2, well its almost tied) but ya I only use mine in the woods, its good for less encumbered movement. its also very comfortable and is pretty good to get a good aim with. I definitly strongly suggest it.


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The P90 will work fine for woodland. I used mine one day, I was getting kills nonstop. The Marui hop-up unit is great, so the range is just fine, especially for a stock AEG.

The barrel isn't M4 length, it's a bit longer than an MP5, though I remember hearing somewhere the airsoft version has an MP5 length barrel? This could have just been a mistake, it was on one of the retail sites.

Any rate, it's incredibly easy to move and shoot with, since most of the weight is behind the trigger, you can hold the gun one-handed and still easily move, without snagging anything while doing so.

Bottom line, it has the same range as other stock AEGs, if you know how to effectively play, you'll hold your own without problem.
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post Jul 6 2007, 08:33 PM
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According to Dees Customs, a p90 barrel is 247mm long, and an M4 barrel is 363mm. An mp5 barrel is about 229mm.

http://deescustoms.com/prod_custom-barrels.html

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The P90 used the same length barrel as the G36C, 250mm (247mm to be exact)……which is not a bad length at all in comparison to the G3SAS I used to have, with a 205mm barrel!


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Try crawling through dense brush with a long rifle. It's not nearly as easy as moving with a weapon about half the length of your arm. That's why I love the P90 (well, one reason), you can hold it one handed and easily crawl. With longer rifles, it's bound to snag on something.

One thing I do hate about the P90 (possibly the only thing) is the mags. I hate carrying those things. And the hi-caps will jam often if you don't lube them up well. So you'd need a special pouch for that. You can even make one fairly easily, I made a leg holster out of duct tape for holding a ma

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In search of a recon/cqb airsoft gun, I came across the P90TR. I had already bought and sold two tokyo marui mp5 varients and was looking for something different. I was skeptical at first, the gun looks really weird! but cool nonetheless. Also, the magazines are very long and awkward shaped. Most tacvests cannot hold them. I looked around for reveiws of this gun, finding mostly postitive conclusions, I decided to buy one. It was not an easy gun to locate that was instock at a US based retailer. Some retailers had them, but at rediculous prices. Finally, Poweredge USA got them in, and their prices are always fair. I ordered it on Wednesday with two spare mags, the gun, and a hurricane rubber butt exstension peice. The price came to about 330 dollars with two day shipping. I eagerly waited until late Friday afternoon when that big brown truck rolled up to my driveway. After making a barely legible signiture, yanking the box out of the carriers hand, and running into my room, I tore open the package and unveiled my newest toy.

The box was rather big for just a little gun, but the silencer comes attatched to it. In the box is the gun, some bb's, manual, magazine, and all the other ussual tokyo marui knik nacs. All I was concerned with at the moment though was the gun itself. I picked it up and my first impression was, "Darn this thing is sweet looking" I popped the mag in and immediatly shouldered it. To be honest, when I ordered the gun, I had doubts, I thought that it would just be small, and awkward. This was based on the reveiws I had read, all of which seemed to have been done by the lollypop kids and umpa lumpas. I am average size, 6 foot tall and about 150lbs. The gun fits me like a glove, It is COMFORTABLE to hold, and snapshot aiming is a peice of cake. The only gun that I beleive is more ergonomically correct is the tm SIG 552. I had a fresh battery ready to go when it arrived, I opened the buttstock up, with the touch of a button and inserted an 8.4volt 600mah mini batt in. I noticed that unlike any other TM I have ever owned the battery was a peice of cake to put in. Infact, there is a little too much space, the battery will shake around a little. Easily solved by putting a little padding around the battery. Next, I took a tm speedloader and proceded to load my magazine with 68 .25 gram bbs. LOCK N' LOAD. I stuck the mag in place, pulled the charging handle (just for fun), and sighted in on some cans that didnt know what was comin'. I do not have a chronograph, but I can tell you that this gun shoots just like any other marui gun, this being the 6th Marui I have owned. A solid and consistent 275FPS would be my guess. Don't let the compact look of the gun fool you, the barrel is longer than the mp5 variants. I was getting very consistent groupings mag after mag, with the hopup tuned in perfectly.

After getting a decent amount of trigger time in, I headed back to my room to see what kinds of accessories I had laying around that I could throw on this mofo. I put a red dot, lazer, the hurricane rubber butt, and a nicer looking silencer. The red dot, is not a nessesity with this gun, the stock sights, though relatively simple, are quiet effective. But with all of these accesories attatched the gun did look very sweet. My first tests with the gun, were without any silencer. Im just not a big fan of the socom style one that was on the gun. The gun has a nice snap sound to each shot w/out a suppressor on it. After putting on my own suppressor, I was shocked at how quiet this gun can be. Ive tried silencing each and every AEG I have ever owned. There seems to be no comparision to this one though.

In conclusion, the pros of the gun far outweight the cons. If you look around you can find mag pouches for the awkward magazines easily. I would be confident taking this gun in woodland, just as I was when I used my mp5's or my 552. The weapon will shine at its brightest though in CQB, it is so easy to manuver with, being so compact. Im very pleased with the P90TR so far. Sorry for not having any specs like shot groupings, fps, or other measurements, this is my first airsoft reveiw, and almost every other reveiw of this gun will tell you all the goodies. I am simply re-affirming what most other reviews have said.

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